The old testament is the new concealed? – The rear end of Augustine

Let me clarify somthing.

There is a phrase used by some which states the following: you are talking from out of your backside. What does it mean? The “backside” refers to your bum or your bottom, the anus. When a person “talks out of the backside”, this means that the quality of what they say has as much value as the natural product of the anus. I will leave that there as that is as graphic as I want to get.

Getting to the point

So there’s a statement that is believed to have been made up by some ancient christian called Augustine which said something like this: “the old testament is the new testament concealed and the new testament is the old testament revealed”. Another way that it is stated is “the new testament is in the old concealed, and the old testament is in the new revealed”.

When I looked around for what people understood this phrase to mean. One statement which stands out to me said the following: “it means that wishful thinking is not a new phenomenon.” I think this is one of the best explanations of the value of this statement.

Why?

As has been discussed in previous articles, the central tenets of the so-called “new testament” have no clear and explicit mention in the Jewish Bible. A messiah figure that comes twice, a dying and rising messiah, even the very use of the word “messiah” to refer to the future promised Davidic king of Israel, the replacement of Israel with Gentiles in some new covenant, a crucifixion, the importance of the cross, the notion of the death of a man by mundane mutilation and execution being a valid offering to God, the notion of one man conferring his righteousness upon another, the contradiction between faith or grace and law; over and over and over again, the main tenets of the new testament and the modern christian has no clear explicit mention in the Jewish Bible.

In other words, the central tenets of the new testament are not seen in the Jewish Bible.

Now some christian may stand up and say the following: “Well, isn’t that what the saying actually says? The New Testament is in the Old Testament, but it’s just not seen.” And I would reply that this is exactly the problem. The problem is two-fold.

1) The new testament is not seen in the Jewish Bible
2) The Jewish Bible outright contradicts the doctrines of the new testament.

Not seen

The problem with the claim that something is hidden is the assumption that it is actually there. If I don’t have that assumption, there needs to be clear evidences that what is supposedly hidden is actually there.

To make this both concrete and relevant, let me put it this way. The problem with the claim that the new testament is hidden in the Jewish Bible is the assumption that it is actually there. If I don’t have that assumption, then there needs to be clear evidences that the new testament is actually there in the Jewish Bible.

Let me give an example. Christians will say that the sacrifices foreshadowed the “better sacrifice” in the death of Jesus. But the problem is that the Jewish Bible doesn’t make this link. There is no overt message that someone called “messiah” is going to die for others. The Torah law only legalizes objects lower in the food chain, like animals, flour and spices. It gives no hint with its various and specific stipulations that a certain human being (or hybrid manGod freak) is intended. The Law of Moses gives no sign or hint, when read in its own context, that it’s foreshadowing anything, and God gives no special key to decode the Jewish Bible and make it transform into the new testament or christian or Pauline message.

So there is no basis in the Jewish Bible to think that sacrifices refer to a human death by mundane execution. Their very particular and specific nature gives the opposite message: that God actually said what he meant and no additions or decryptions are needed.

The issue here is the christian presumption. The problem is that they devoted themselves to a man first. They bowed their knees and hearts to the Nazarene first. And then they looked at the Jewish Bible with that devotion in mind. Therefore we are not talking about “the old testament being the new concealed” but rather “I had the new testament in mind and heart already, the old testament must agree in some way whether it does or not.”

To wrap this up a bit, when something is not seen in the text, there is just as much chance that it is because it is not really there at all. So the central tenents of new testament not being seen in the Jewish Bible really could imply that those tenets are not there at all. It is only the presumption of the christian that forces their beliefs into the text.

Unwanted contradictions and conflicts

When the Jewish Bible outrightly contradicts or conflicts with the central tenets of the new testament, it not only makes it unlikely that the new is hidden in the Jewish Bible; it makes it downright impossible.

For example, the christian belief from the new testament is that Jesus’ blood atones for sin. They will sometimes use Leviticus 17 to state how the blood makes atonement. But Leviticus itself conflicts with such a notion when the same verse specifies that blood is supposed to atone on the altar. The only altar spoken of in the Law is in the Tabernacle and later the Temple. Jesus’ blood was supposedly spilt outside of the city of Jerusalem where he died. In case you didn’t know, a cross is not a valid altar, the details of which are specified in the law.

The new testament makes a big deal out of Jesus’ miracles, advising people to listen to and believe in him based on those miracles. Christians even make a bigger deal out of the claimed resurrection. Yet when it comes to identifying the messiah, there is absolutely no text in the Jewish Bible that says that he will be identified through miracles, even personal resurrections.

The Jewish Bible speaks of the promised king bringing peace to the world. Jesus claimed that his coming would bring the exact opposite and that he did not come to bring peace.

Paul and the anonymous author of the book of Hebrews speaks of the passing away of the Law of Moses, its sacrifices, a change of priesthood and the fact that Jesus’ “sacrifice” ends and fulfils all previous sacrifices. But God through his prophet of the Jewish Bible only spoke of the continued and perpetual existence of the law to the point that it is kept naturally by the people and its sin sacrifices are continued even through to the future third Temple which will be built by the future promised Davidic king, the “messiah”. In the Law of Moses, it speaks of the perpetual nature of the Levitical priesthood and later Jeremiah states that the Levites will always have a man available to do the job.

Paul says no man is righteous and that righteousness isn’t attainable by doing what God commands, i.e., his Law. Yet over and over and over, ad nauseum (to the point of nausea – just a turn of phrase) the Jewish Bible speaks of men being righteous, of the righteous people. It even says that a man who avoids certain acts is righteous. Moses outrightly says that keeping the Law is the means of righteousness and that it is not beyond a person’s reach to keep it and do it. Abraham was blessed because he did what God commanded. Noah was righteous before God: God himself said that. David was held up by God as a standard of righteousness for all future kings. The Psalms, Proverbs and Ecclesiastes are replete with references about the righteous, upright, innocent. And no place links this righteousness to belief in a messiah figure.

Christians claim that Jesus’ sacrifice makes them righteous, that righteousness is imputed upon them as if God sees the supposed righteousness of Jesus upon them. Yet the Jewish Bible is clear, everyone is responsible for his own actions, the righteousness of one man cannot be placed on another.

Time after time after time, ad nauseum, the Jewish Bible not only slaps the new testament doctrines across the face: the Jewish Bible chops away the legs of the new testament and leaves it bloodied and beaten in some dirty Roman gutter to perish.

I know. I know the question that can come to the mind of some: how can people accept the new testament? The most likely reason has been stated before: people devote themselves to the idol first, they commit their heart to a man first, and with such devotion and indoctrination they then approach the Law of Moses and the Jewish Bible with the absolute faith that what contradicts it actually “fulfils” it.

The backside of Augustine

Let’s bring back some original thoughts.

The claim that the new testament is in the old concealed and the old is in the new revealed does mean what was stated before: “it means that wishful thinking is not a new phenomenon.” It is wishful thinking to believe that that which the Jewish Bible says nothing about is somehow hidden inside it. It’s silly to believe that that which contradicts the Jewish Bible reveals it. The truth is the following: the new testament is the Jewish Bible neglected, the Jewish Bible is the new rejected.

Or, the new testament is the Jewish Bible puked, the Jewish Bible is the new nuked.

Or, the new testament is the Jewish Bible suspended, the Jewish Bible is the new up-ended.

Or, the new testament is the Jewish Bible frustrated, the Jewish Bible is the new negated or decimated.

Or, the new testament is the Jewish Bible broken, the Jewish Bible is the new … errrr …. errrr …. hmmm ….

Ok, I like to rhyme. Sorry. (Grin!)

That is why the words of Augustine, which repeated by adherents of christianity, should only be given the value of what comes out of a person’s rear end. In other words, he’s talking out of his backside.

About hesedyahu

I'm a gentile living in UK, a person who has chosen to take upon himself the responsibility God has given to all gentiles. God is the greatest aspect of my life and He has blessed me with a family. I used to be a christian, but I learnt the errors of my ways. I love music. I love to play it on the instruments I can play, I love to close my eyes and feel the groove of it. I wrote my songs when I was single and not so happy and since I've been married, I haven't written as much. I guess that shows how happy and blessed I am. What else is there?
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6 Responses to The old testament is the new concealed? – The rear end of Augustine

  1. searchinmyroots says:

    Excellent post Hesedyahu!

    So much truth that anyone can CLEARLY see. Unless of course you are “blinded” by an emotional connection to a religion that has no part in Judaism.

    Loved your rhymes.

    Hear is one that has been said in reference to the teachings of the Christian Bible as well -

    If it’s new then it is not good. If it’s good, then it’s not new.

  2. searchinmyroots says:

    It may come across as insulting to some, but to whom it does are probably the same ones who will say the Jews have been blinded, or “don’t have the spirit” and that to me is insulting as well.

    I recognize if Christians may say they understand the NT better than a Jewish person. But the door swings both ways. A Jewish person who understands the Hebrew language will most certainly understand the Hebrew bible better than a Christian. Especially if the Christian does not understand biblical Hebrew.

    I’m sure a Christian may understand what I am saying if a Muslim told them what the NT means. Not trying to belittle Islam, just making a point. I mean after all, isn’t part of the NT spoken of in the Koran? So when a Christian agrees the believers of Islam understand the NT better than they do, then I’ll believe the Christians understand the Hebrew bible better than the Jewish people. The Jewish people to whom it was given to, to whom G-d Himself told the Jewish people to teach it to their children, their children’s children and the nations of the world. Why would G-d tell us to teach it to the world if He didn’t think we would understand it?

  3. Chris says:

    ILLUSION. Some fall PREY to Illusion, rather than The Truth. Jesus is The Truth, and there is no other. And when someone dissemintates Deception, they are not only responsible for the lies they tell themself but for every soul they misled as well.

    KLEPTOS.

    • hesedyahu says:

      The irony is that you first convey the illusion that the nazarene is “the truth” and then speak of someone disseminating deception. As long as you see the nazarene as the truth, then you won’t know what deception is. So there’s no real power to your words at all. But thanks for showing me how concise someone can phrase their deception.

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